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YouTube as HTML5. The end of Flash dominance of video?

Google has posted a proof of concept showing YouTube using HTML 5.

http://www.youtube.com/html5

I was able to view this with Safari. You will note that there is no Flash on this page. Apparently the video tag uses system video resources so if you previously installed a h.264 codec, it should just work. The controls are all HTML. Does this mean the end to dominance of Flash delivered video on the web?

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  1. May 28th, 2009 at 18:17 | #1

    Wow and if you mouse over the video thumbs they play etc. Quite cool. But the one thing I dod remember from my windows days is that codecs were a nightmare. divX with AC3 audio etc. I think this could work, but the sites that deal heavily with video overlays etc (advertising model) will always stay with flash so they can embed stupid advertising all over the place.

  2. Matt
    May 29th, 2009 at 10:52 | #2

    Wow,

    This would be/is a major blow to the Flash platform. Video is what saved the flash platform from the dreaded splash screens of death. ‘Flash’ still has bad connotations for most of the dev. world. Interesting post

  3. May 29th, 2009 at 11:56 | #3

    HTML5 standard is a ways away. Yet, this has the potential to throw the world of video delivery on the web into a state of turmoil that will spiral down into a pit of standard-less mayhem. Say what you want about the closed nature of the Flash Player, but it provides a stable and cross-system-browser platform for video. Developing video players is complicated due to the multi-tiered asynchronous nature. Integrating into CDNs and third party applications (yes, ad engines) takes uber magic. Javascript? Can you say silent failures … not my first choice of platform to develop a video player in.

  4. May 29th, 2009 at 12:50 | #4

    YouTube became popular because it was able to use video with a plugin that everyone had, rather than get people to install something new.

    The HTML5 YouTube page I think is an experimental page, as it currently doesn’t work in a lot of browsers. Which is why I don’t think you will see YouTube going to HTML5 any time soon.

    Note that there currently no standard for video codecs, meaning each browser vendor will decide on what codecs to support if any. Which means in order for the video tag to work, the web developer will have to supply multiple versions of the video in a variety of codecs. This has the potential to get even messier, depending on what codecs (if any) various mobile devices support.

    Also since there’s no codex detection for browsers, assumptions will have to be made with what codex the user might have based on browser or operating system. Any users who edit or mask their browser’s user agent will likely run into problems viewing HTML5 video.

    From my understanding, using the video tag means no fullscreen, no real streaming, plus I don’t think the browsers are using video hardware acceleration yet for smooth playback. So with the video tag, you are basically looking at video capabilities similar to when video was first introduced in Flash Player 6 and there’s still catch up to do.

    Not to mention that Adobe is pushing ahead having put peer-to-peer video capabilities into Flash Player 10.

    So I think it’s doubtful that we will be seeing the end of Flash dominance of video any time soon.

  5. May 30th, 2009 at 15:53 | #5

    This is pretty cool, but really doesn’t impact Flash or the Flash platform. Flash has such a massive head start and penetration rate as compared to HTML5 that by the time HTML5 even has a fair amount of support, Flash will be even further improved. It’s kind of funny how over the years we have seen so many “Flash killers” come and go. Can’t we all just get along lol? Flash has done wonderful and amazing things for the internet, even if you hate Flash ads. I’m not surprised that Google and Apple (Safari) are bent on “killing” Flash because they tend to pride themselves on being the best in class in well everything. Ah hubris, will you ever change?

    Anyway Flash is great, HTML5 looks pretty cool, as does O3D. Yay for technology in all its forms!

    God bless,

    DjacK Height

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